Topics Started by Disillusioned JW

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Did Jesus say the God of the OT is not the same God as mine??
by Diogenesister in
1. watchtower
2. bible
bart erhman states, in this you tube short presumably taken from the video series he has been doing with megan lewis*, that jesus said the god of the ot, the god of jeremiah, is not the (same)god as jesus.

bart continues "jeremiah's god killed (the children) - jesus said let the children come to me.

jesus' god said turn the other cheek" - the ot god was war-like etc (paraphrasing bart here a bit).. it's always been the thing that stopped my fully embracing the bible after leaving watchtower.
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How Do You Know You Are In The Wrong Religion?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i believe this list which many of us worked on needs to see the light of day again...and added to if possible.. you know you are in the wrong religion:1. when the all important question is not: "do you believe in the lord jesus christ?"....but....

"do you believe in the "faithful and discreet slave" appointed in brooklyn in 1919?"2.

when you will be refused baptism if: a. you don't believe jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bc (whereas all non-jw scholars, all encyclopedias and all history books say this event took place in 587 bc.)b.
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would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a good question is would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?.

were you more happy pimi?

are all the pimis more happy than the the pimos or the pomos?.
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Zoom- CO's were told to tell elders/ms not to be on it unless you have a reason PERIOD!
by XBEHERE in
1. jw
2. friends
from reddit exjw.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/143556c/co_meeting_with_elders_gb_seems_desperate/.

pretty much what other appointed men have been telling me.
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American Healthcare: How your system works
by Diogenesister in
1. social
2. current
canada has universal healthcare.

the consensus is that america never will.

can anyone explain why, please?
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What it’s like to leave the Jehovah’s Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo in
1. jw
2. experiences
https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/05/19/felt-end-review-daniel-cox/.

what it’s like to leave the jehovah’s witnesses.

in ‘i felt the end before it came: memoirs of a queer ex-jehovah’s witness,’ daniel allen cox reflects on losing his faith after spending his early years waiting for armageddon.
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Link between relationships and health/happiness
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
even though i’m agnostic so will not commit to either intelligent design or chance, i love being part of the congregation for the close personal relationships.. there is such a great atmosphere inside the congregation it really is like a family and you don’t get this anywhere else.. a real friend is someone you can rely on when you are in need.

if things go wrong for you and you are going through a hard time you know real friends will be there for you.

as long as you didn’t bring it on yourself by going against gods law then you have to prove you are repentant first of course.. there is a lot of research now saying that good friends is essential for healthy and happiness.
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Does the Governing Body already know that Jehovah (the name) came from Babylon the Great?
by Chevelle in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i'll start by stating the obvious... according to the watchtower, the catholic church is a huge part of babylon the great which is led by satan and his demons.

raymundus martini, a catholic monk (who "represents" babylon the great to some extent), woke up one day in the 13th century and decided to alter yhwh so it can be easily pronounced.

hence the spanish-ish version of yhwh was created... jehova... (sounds something like this in spanish: heh-o-va).
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Top AI inventor Geoffrey Hinton reluctantly concluded that AI will probably humanity fairly soon
by slimboyfat in
1. social
2. current
geoffrey hinton, major inventor of artificial intelligence: .

“if you take the existential risk seriously, as i now do—i used to think it was way off, but now i think it’s serious, and fairly close—it might be quite sensible to just stop developing these things any further, but i think it’s completely naïve to think that would happen.

there’s no way to make that happen.
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Watchtower Says Their Writings Are Part of the Bible and Are Essential For Salvation
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
hard to believe, but it's true:watchtower december 15, 2008, pg.

28 – “our coming to know "the truth‟ - the entire body of christian teachings that has become part of the bible - and adhering to it are essential for our salvation”.this is the same position of the roman catholic church.

one of the pope’s titles is the vicar of christ.